Sunday, August 31, 2008

Zuma warns ANC to stop violence

Say it with a sting.....

Moipone Malefane Published:Aug 31, 2008

Party wars: Differences flare across the provinces as members sow seeds of division ahead of next year’s national election.


ANC president Jacob Zuma has intervened to heal rifts within the ruling alliance after the party’s youth league issued a blistering attack this week on his deputy and strongest internal rival, Kgalema Motlanthe.


Opening an ANC election workshop in Johannesburg, Zuma decried widespread infighting among party members, warning that it tarnished the moral image of the party ahead of next year’s election. He urged members to shun “factionalism” and to end the violence that has marred the race for electable positions in provincial and national party structures.


Shortly before Zuma spoke, the ANC Youth League issued a vitriolic statement condemning ANC deputy president Motlanthe.


Motlanthe is widely seen as the likely alternative for president if Zuma’s criminal prosecution takes him out of the race.


Motlanthe castigated the youth league in a newspaper interview this week, saying it was undermining party positions and exceeding its authority.


In addition to his threat to “kill” for Zuma, youth league leader Julius Malema has been pushing for an early election to get rid of President Thabo Mbeki, for new economic policy directions and for a massive cabinet overhaul.


In this week’s statement, the youth league suggested Motlanthe had been ineffective as secretary- general and was acting without a party mandate in his criticism of their statements.


“In our last national executive committee meeting, the ANCYL was very clear in expressing our concern over the manner in which (Motlanthe) has engaged us through the media. Yet he continues to play like a paragon of political correctness. This is shocking, as the deputy president went public to defy the decision of the ANC national executive committee on his deployment to cabinet,” the league said in a statement signed by spokesman Floyd Shivambu.


Malema was elected after a tumultuous conference in Bloemfontein, where party elders were outraged at reports of fighting, drinking and delegates dropping their trousers to insult rivals.


Provincial ANC meetings to prepare for the selection of election candidates have been marred by violence in at least three provinces and one party member has died of injuries sustained in a brawl.


In the Western Cape, ANC provincial secretary Mcebisi Skwatshwa was stabbed at a branch meeting.

In the Northern Cape, which held its provincial conference last week, a member died in hospital after he was beaten up and several others were injured. In Mpumalanga, members were also assaulted ahead of the conference which was held earlier this month.


Zuma warned that such violence was destroying the ANC’s image and could discourage voters from going to the polls. He urged members to avoid claims of ownership of the party or its policies, saying it encouraged destructive factionalism.


The workshop was attended by ANC leaders as well as South African Communist Party and Congress of South African Trade Union members.






Zuma said the three alliance partners should campaign together to stress the achievements rather than the failings of the alliance government since 1994.


He said that, while campaigning, the ANC must speak out about how it plans to resolve the issues of crime and HIV/Aids, but he warned that the greatest challenge would be getting people out to vote.


Zuma defeated Mbeki in the election of a new party president in December largely on the basis of factional support encouraged by the youth league, Cosatu and the SACP. The youth league reaffirmed its support this week, renewing calls to abandon criminal proceedings against Zuma.

Sunday Times


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Comments: (33)View Latest
zuluboybob said at Aug 31 2008 2:12AM
just when i thought it was not possible.... "pass the bananas, this way....."



ShoeLace said at Aug 31 2008 2:39AM
Look who's talking. Father of factionalism himself. Well its more like chick are coming home to roost JZ. Live with it.

chickenrunner said at Aug 31 2008 3:48AM
Zuma warns ANC to stop violence, while his supporters march on police stations to save his fat arse - what an idiot!

chickenrunner said at Aug 31 2008 3:50AM
Headline should read: Zuma warns his ANC supporters to stop enciting violence - fat chance of that happening...

zebra said at Aug 31 2008 5:43AM
Bring me my machine gun!

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

zebra said at Aug 31 2008 5:44AM
What a f==ked up country SA is.

benbza said at Aug 31 2008 6:07AM
Looks like it's the beginning of the end for the scum as it dies by the sword it lived by - but they'll take us down with them, so let's vote with our feet, NOW. We have no vote - and it takes too long to use the voting system - BUT we the minority pay the majority of TAXES and can cripple the scum who have no income but ours! We have the power to withhold taxes from a corrupt state. It's time to orchestrate this now. Our true hero is the lone South African who is taking the regime to court for disbanding the Scorpions and he reminded us all of our power when he made this comment this week. We won't toyi toyi or necklace them, tempting as their lessons are to us, but we can deposit our taxes in trust and bring the scum down.
Better than raising the heartbeat in frustration day after day perhaps - if some of us don't do something soon we'll be tempted to borrow convict Zuma's machine gun and remove the infestation by hand - just as the ANC terrorists did!

DDarko said at Aug 31 2008 6:37AM
ANCYL turns on Motlanthe
30/08/2008 22:26 - (SA)

# Motlanthe 'attacking ANCYL'
# SACP: Drop charges against Zuma
# Recall Mbeki - ANCYL
# ANCYL to back Zuma in court

Caiphus Kgosana and Makhudu Sefara

Johannesburg - The divisions within the ANC faction that threw its weight behind embattled party leader Jacob Zuma have spilt into the open.

The ANC Youth League (ANCYL), considered kingmakers in the party, has told ANC deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe not to behave as if Zuma is "no more".

Motlanthe's face-off with the ANCYL is the clearest form of division in the camp, which was united in its bid to oust President Thabo Mbeki as ANC leader.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Politics/0,,2-7-12_2385540,00.html
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What do south african people need more to see that the criminals that are the ANC are out of control, and will plunge our country into chaos to protect a blatant unrepentant guilty criminal?

When will the people realize that that the ANC criminal organisation had no intention of governing beyond the establishment of criminal structures aimed at enriching themselves?

Vote ANC in 2009??

DDarko said at Aug 31 2008 6:41AM
Kudos to the so called education minister for managing to exacerbate an already sensitive matter:

Anger over Satanism lesson
29/08/2008 14:56 - (SA)


Alet Rademeyer, Beeld

Johannesburg - The parents of some of the Grade 11 pupils of Dr EG Jansen High School on the East Rand are upset about the life orientation syllabus, which provides 17 pages of elaborate information about Satanism in a textbook.

A parent fumed on Thursday over the "absolute rubbish" to which pupils were exposed in the curriculum.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2384568,00.html
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Vote ANC in 2009??

Svegubbe said at Aug 31 2008 8:24AM
Let us kill for Zuma, let us kill those who are violent!
A way to stop ANC violence ...

debecker said at Aug 31 2008 8:24AM
remember what about riding the Tiger. That should have been done months ago

pws80 said at Aug 31 2008 8:49AM
"Zuma decried widespread infighting among party members, warning that it tarnished the moral image of the party"

hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Someone buy zuma a dictionary so he can look up the definition of "moral".



hkgkboet said at Aug 31 2008 9:05AM
Keep it up ANC.You are rocking my Sunday.You are now totally exposed as an inept bunch of palookers that have only one aim;More trough time.

Sennzo said at Aug 31 2008 9:18AM
It is the fight for a position in the new gravy train Msholozi. The greed is too great. Everyone wants their hand in the pie. Your speeches and appeals are not going to stop it. Only getting the people with the right character in leadership positions will.

The image of the ANC is already tarnished. So, the job is to reverse that and not prevent the tarnishing. It has already happened.

Rather than people staying at home and not voting, probably your biggest problem is that people will go out and vote but no longer for the ANC but for any of the opposition parties.

The ANC has never looked this bad and after voting for it on the last three occassions, my vote is going elsewhere this time around.

mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:28AM
ShoeLace said at Aug 31 2008 2:39AM
Look who's talking. Father of factionalism himself. Well its more like chick are coming home to roost JZ. Live with it.

He is a victim of Mbeki's factionalism.

MikeC said at Aug 31 2008 9:30AM
I was willing to give Zuma the benefit of the doubt, but every day that goes by proves me wrong. He is either very stupid or assumes all ANC voters are.

He NOW says 'stop violence' ONLY because it will have a negative impact on ANC votes and NOT that it's wrong. He and his cabal only make these calls in their own interests - like 'redeploying' premiers so they can put in their own people, i.e. those they can manipulate.

I really hope that voters can see through this group that's hijacked the ANC.

mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:34AM
benbza said at Aug 31 2008 6:07AM

Hyenasnlaugh but they do not know what they are laughing at.That is how stupid you are the word terrorist is a word that came up with pink people.But look at the unrest you pink faces have done to the world now if I were you I would be very scared to use that word considering the above mentioned.But I am not suprised maybe the ghosts are luring you to craziness like your brotybrother sword boy.

mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:40AM
pws80 said at Aug 31 2008 8:49AM

Pink people think like robots and they are so stubbon.How many votes did Zuma get in Pulukwane and who started hating him for that.How many people were at Zuma's trial and how many people went on strike to have his charges droped.Now tell me where is factionalism there? please read your dictionary and find the definations of words before your put your filthy pink fingers on the keeboard of computers to type rubbish.

hkgkboet said at Aug 31 2008 9:51AM
mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:40AM

please read your dictionary and find the definations of words before your put your filthy pink fingers on the keeboard of computers to type rubbish.

After reading your pearls of wisdom One can only come to this conclusion.Machinegunboy,we know who you are and you must face justice and go before the courts.If found guilty you and Shaik can play dominoes in hospital together.

pws80 said at Aug 31 2008 10:12AM
mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:40AM

Hey doos, I talked about moral, not factionalism. I don't have to talk about factionalism, as Zuma, Mbeki, Motlanthe, etc, have already talked about it and admitted to it.

The "moral" Zuma:

Accept Bribes
Avoid paying taxes
Promote violence against your fellow man
Screw your buddies AIDS infested daughter, while married to a whole harem of wives
Try to subvert the law, with numerous trips to Mauritius to prevent evidence being presented at your trial.

Perhaps, pinkfoot, you need to think and read before you type.

If I was a racist I would be celebrating the failures of the ANC.

More blacks dying of AIDS than ever before
The highest unemployment of blacks in decades
Blacks killing blacks a la Xenophobia
Millions starving

unfortunately for you, my racist countryman, the above make me sick to my stomach. What surprises me though is it is acceptable to your black leaders.

Just how dumb are you to accept this?

pws80 said at Aug 31 2008 10:14AM
mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:40AM

Team sent out to calm Cape’s stormy factions

http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/News/Article.aspx?id=833424


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha. Doos

phreewil said at Aug 31 2008 10:21AM
mshiniboy,

How were the whores? Doesn't your fat stomach get in the way?

marklab said at Aug 31 2008 11:25AM
Mr Zuma you tarnished the image of the ANC long time ago. What you see today is the fruit of the seeds you and your cohorts have sown over the years.

et2bru said at Aug 31 2008 12:03PM
"Zuma said the three alliance partners should campaign together to stress the achievements rather than the failings of the alliance government since 1994."

That should keep it brief. More time for the entertainment section and the after party.


Loggenberg said at Aug 31 2008 12:16PM
The same Zuma should know that he`s hit song(Umshini wam) motivates violence.

geanann said at Aug 31 2008 1:14PM
He wants party csdres to direct their anger towards non-alliance members and counter-revolutionary forces.

It is bad to slake their bloodthirst on their comrades

geanann said at Aug 31 2008 3:12PM
There are now three ANC/Alliance factions:
- Mbeki faction
- Zuma/Mantashe/Malema/Vavi/Nzimandi faction (I believe this crowd are led by Mantashe and Zuma is just a figurehead.
- Motlhante/Phosa/Sexwale/Rhamaphosa faction

Some interesting battles ahead. Much blood to be shed.

alice37 said at Aug 31 2008 4:35PM
mshiniboy said at Aug 31 2008 9:40AM
pws80 said at Aug 31 2008 8:49AM

"Pink people think like robots and they are so stubbon.How many votes did Zuma get in Pulukwane(Polokwane) and who started hating him for that.How many people were at Zuma's trial and how many people went on strike to have his charges droped (dropped). Now tell me where is factionalism there? (Huh?) please read your dictionary and find the definations (definitions) of words before your put your filthy pink fingers on the keeboard (keyboard) of computers to type rubbish."

Suggest you do the same and get the correct spelling of such big words right

Pot calling the kettle "pink"?


et2bru said at Aug 31 2008 4:36PM
Never did figure the logic of having a communist, trade union leader on your board. Conflict of interest and such obvious imagery (Mantashe - Samancor)
But once a grasp of Jackal logic is gleaned, who gives a dam anyway.



rorii said at Aug 31 2008 5:46PM
Too little too late, what has this big airhead been waiting for? If this is the best the ANC can do then the party has no leadership.

view-from-doc said at Aug 31 2008 5:53PM
the anc is reaping what they sow....which is corruption, lies, stupidity....they use to say mbeki did not want criticism....and now they r doing the same thing........the anc will soon implode......and thats sad considering its long history and leaders in the past....

whizzkid said at Aug 31 2008 6:11PM
Well let's have a look see - Under the leadership of Mandela and Mbeki, the ANC was united and a force to be reckoned with and highly regarded. Ever since Zuma took over, the ANC leadership has been riddled with opportunism, thuggery and contempt for the constitution. Leaders trying to steer it in the direction of good morals and respect for our country on the moral compass are increasingly being chastised by delinquent imebicles. Zuma himself cannot control, lead and provide guidance to the party and his members. Everyone has become the self appointed spokesperson of the ANC. I say he should step down and let a capable leader lead this historically great organisation. He just does not have what it takes. He has proven that he is not leadership material.


soekies said at Aug 31 2008 9:15PM

"...should campaign together to stress the achievements rather than the failings of the alliance government since 1994."

...then we can send all these 'achievements' to the people of SA by means of a one line SMS!

Sunday Times

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